Monday, August 23, 2010

Hole above oil pan....can it be fixed?

Ok, on Friday I was traveling down I-44 and I lost oil pressure, I pulled over and discovered that I had oil leaking all over the road. I had it towed back to my house, where I discovered this hole. It's not in the oil pan, but right above it. You can view a picture of it via the link below. Can it be fixed?





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Interesting situation, I've only seen something like this one other time in my career as a shop owner. In short...sure, it can be fixed, anything can be fixed. The real question is whether it's going to be worth it in the long run.





It's not something you can slap some JB Weld over and hope for the best, although I'm sure many have tried and failed. The only correct way to go about repairing the block is going to be to remove the engine. At very least drop the pan but a true reliable fix would require pulling the block...if anyone tells you different they're full of *#%26amp;$.





Once the engine is pulled the cause of the hole has to be determined, it's possible but VERY unlikely that something came up off the road and caused the damage. It's more likely that something broke (possibly an oil pump gear) and smashed through the block from the inside. The damage most likely goes way beyond what you can see, this of course can only be determined by pulling the engine and doing an inspection.





If you're lucky and the only damage is the hole a machine shop can repair it. Most likely however the hole is the least of your problems, if a pump gear came loose, etc there's a good chance it caused internal damage. The loss of oil pressure and loss of oil probably caused a good deal of damage as well...when you lost oil pressure the valves, bearings, etc all stopped receiving the lubrication needed, and considering you were on the highway there's a high chance you've got rod bearing damage at very least.





With that said you need to decide how much it's worth...if the car has over 100k miles and is several years old it's probably not going to be worth the cost of repair. You could be looking at a price tag well into the $3500 range, possibly more.





If you're unsure then find someone willing to just patch the hole, they'll most likely drop the pan, patch the hole, and hope for the best. You may get lucky and the problem could be fixed for a few hundred bucks.





In all of my years of service I've never seen anything like this that didn't turn out for the worse when trying to cut corners. So...get a cheap fix done, fill her up with oil and hope, get the motor pulled, inspected, and repaired properly, buy a salvage block if necessary, or scrap the car.





Without actually seeing the car in person it's impossible for me to give you a precise diagnosis. A real time mechanic should be able to give you your options fairly quickly....if they tell you it's going to take a few days just to diagnose the cause you're most likely being taken for a ride. Pulling the pan and inspecting the rod caps, etc will give a wealth of knowledge.





Hope this helps!Hole above oil pan....can it be fixed?
Patching the hole is the simple part of your problem. Looking at the picture I see a broken connecting rod. You will have to remove the engine, disassemble and find out what happened and how extensive the damage is. It will likely cost as much to repair it as replace it.
that,s on the block. this is just a guess and i don,t know if it will work or not but get a piece of flat iron and see if someone can weld it over the hole.
Yes it can simply order a good low mile used engine from LKQonline.com and install it. I'm sure you heard a small clatter


type noise when it started leaking oil. That my friend is an aerated


Bock.
WOW, that is a problem. No easy fix. Your best bet would be to get a junk yard motor with low miles if possible. That block is shot.
You'll need to replace the motor
your kidding right??LOL..you need a new motor...no repair none..no way..no how,,,

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